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Re: Metadata and the Windows Live Photo Gallery

eisenworks — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:29:18 GMT

I just discovered that tagging is hierarchical in WLPG. So, I can have a root tag called "Albums," if I wish, and sub-tags of Family, Vacations, etc. This is a very powerful scheme. So, Picasa's virtual albums are no longer missed...

Re: Metadata and the Windows Live Photo Gallery

eisenworks — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:44:35 GMT

I've only become aware of WLPG in the last couple of days, and it's hard to avoid doing a compare-and-contrast with Picasa. The ease of modifying metadata is clearly far superior in WLPG, particularly when you're trying to do a first-time organization of lots of photos. I like, for example, that you can simply click on and modify things -- even the filename -- in the right column. If you change the taken-on date in Windows Photo Info, you run into a strange UI that I still haven't figured out, but here it's lickity-split quick.

I do miss not having Picasa's virtual albums. Tagging can be used in much the same way, but the two models are not identical. Having identifiable albums that don't have to be fished from a potentially long list of keywords is useful. I suppose you need a database for that. Does WLPG even have one?

I'm a bit lost on the idea that the new metadata fields are a property of Vista. I can use WLPG and Microsoft Photo Info with XP and still get the same benefits, I think. What am I missing?

I have recently done a screencast on Getting Control of your Digital Photos that is premised on the idea that, before using Picasa, you really need some other tools to provide a basic level of organization, e.g., find and co-locate your photos, correct taken-on dates, find duplicates, etc. I would have taken a slightly different tack were I preparing users for WLPG...

Re: Metadata and the Windows Live Photo Gallery

catto — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:12:22 GMT

Hey Now Sarah,

I like this post & this tool I was wondering if you know after editing a tag if there is a hot key for the save button? I find myself wishing there was a keyboard shortcut for that button since the user needs to click the save button after making meta tag adjustments.

Thx,

Catto

Re: Metadata and the Windows Live Photo Gallery

gcoupe — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:45:28 GMT

Michael, I think you're being somewhat economical with the truth. WLPG is not a true superset of Vista Photo Gallery. The latter has the ability to be able to search by ratings. This feature is NOT in WLPG.

Also, the "publish to Flickr" feature of WLPG still has a bug, whereby the upload process maps the XMP Title/IPTC Object Name into Flickr's Description field - when what it should do is map the XMP Dublin Core Description field into Flickr's Description field.

And it would be really nice if I could use Microsoft's Photo Info directly within WLPG instead of doing a two-step shuffle out to Explorer every time... Either that or provide WLPG with full support for IPTC and IPTC4XMP. See http://gcoupe.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!6AA39937A982345B!4417.entry for more background.

But, apart from all that, WLPG is not bad at all!

Geoff Coupe

Re: Metadata and the Windows Live Photo Gallery

mfp2 — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:21:20 GMT

Nice post, Sarah!

quikboy, Windows Live Photo Gallery is a superset of Vista Photo Gallery. In other words, it is an upgrade.... and better yet, its free! http://photogallery.live.com

Michael Palermiti (PM, Photo Gallery team)

Re: Metadata and the Windows Live Photo Gallery

quikboy — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:52:28 GMT

I got a question. Which is better? Vista Photo Gallery or Live Photo Gallery? Because I heard that each program has something the other program doesn't have. So which one really is better?

And I think Microsoft Photo Info. Tool should come standard. Shows at least Microsoft cares something about creativity programs.